View Full Version : License Renewal Info

Nancy Selleck
10-19-2005, 08:50 AM
License renewals packets will be mailed out to everyone in the next week or so. Everyone will have until January 1, 2006 to renew to keep their current competition number. On January 2nd, all numbers not renewed become available first come, first serve based on the date that their license application was received in the CMRA office.

There is a place on the license renewal form for riders who want to change their numbers.

Riders who currently have competition numbers 2-10, will have first choice of the unrenewed numbers beginning with competition #2 and working up to 10. Those riders still have to meet the same requirement of having their license renewals in by the January 1st deadline.

Riders who earned #1-10 for 2006 will have their 2005 competition number reserved for them while they are competing with their earned number. They also must meet the January 1st deadline to receive that courtesy.

Provisional Novices whose rider school certificate is more than 12 months old and haven't completed their two race weekends without crashing may need to take the school again.

Riders with suspended licenses (unpaid fines or NSF checks), will not be able to renew until they have cleared up their accounts.

If you have moved or are planning to move in the next couple of weeks, please contact me with your current address.

Questions? I love questions. /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

Tony Wang
10-19-2005, 07:19 PM
If a train leave Los Angles at 3:00pm PST traveling East at a rate of 40km/hr and another train, 8,000 miles away, leaves New York at 9am EST traveling West at a rate of 30mi/hr, what time will it be when the two trains me?


Nancy Selleck
10-19-2005, 08:14 PM
Hold on while I get out my slide rule. /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Buck Beasley
10-19-2005, 09:49 PM
Those trains would need to stop for fuel. What is the capacity of said trains fuel bunkers, as well as the filling flow rate? Are the refuelers union? Are we to assume both trains equal in all aspects? When was the last major overhaul of each train? Both running same bearing grease? Passengers or freight? Northern or Southern route? What time of year is it?(daylight savings?) Four strokes? And Nancy, does 007 count as a novice 3 digit?

/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif I've got questions.

Alan Etheredge
10-19-2005, 10:40 PM
"Hold on while I get out my slide rule"

hmmmm .... are you SURE that was your 23rd birthday?

Jan Stadler
10-20-2005, 02:24 AM
2pm CST 6 days later? /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif

Norm McDonald
10-20-2005, 09:15 AM
Buck no wonder you are the King of Smack.

10-20-2005, 09:49 AM
Buck you dont have questions.....

You have issues

10-20-2005, 10:57 AM
Buck, are you assuming both trains will avoid any kind of delays due to hitting objects on the track?

The three times I've taken cross-country trains we hit a pickup, a 4-wheeler, and a compact car...

Jim Falconi
10-20-2005, 12:00 PM
I called Radio Shack, you know, the "You got questions, we got answers" folks. They hung up on me.

10-20-2005, 04:23 PM
All outcomes have a finite probability of occurrence in such an instance.

Ronnie Hay
10-20-2005, 05:36 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what time will it be when the two trains me?
</div></div>Hey Nancy, I got this one!

Since you didn't state otherwise, we have to assume that the trains are not accelerating and furthermore that they leave their destinations at their initial velocities V0(t). And after converting everything to the same standard you get:

[corrected for my inability to properly go from PST to EST]

Doing so gives that they'll meet in 150.75 hours with respect to the train from LA. And since the train from NY left 9 hours earlier, their travel time is 141.75 hours.

[using x(t)= x0(t) + V0(t) + 1/2 a t*t
which still does not agree with David's results]

Unable to provide the time they met due to the incredibly circuituous route needed to cover 8000 miles between LA and NY. Provide the route, which will help us determine the time zone they are in when they meet and then we can provide the actual time they met.

10-20-2005, 07:42 PM
ok... I'm bored, so I worked out the problem...

Assuming they left on the same day, they would meet at 2:55:02.9160pm EST, 5 days later (140.9175 hr after the LA train left).

The train from NY left 9 hours earlier (9am EST vs. 6pm EST), travelling 270 mi in those 9 hours. From there it travelled another 4,227.5243 mi at 30 mph while the LA train travelled 3,502.4757 mi at 24.8548 mph.

================================================== ==============
40.0000 km/hr ~= 24.8548 mi/hr

LA train: 140.9175 hr * 24.8548 mi/hr = 3,502.4757 mi

NY train: 140.9175 hr * 30.0000 mi/hr = 4,227.5243 mi

270 mi + 4,227.5243 mi + 3,502.4757 mi = 8,000 mi
================================================== ==============
thanks for playing...

*edit for the engineers out there... I acknowledge that my results assume the trains were travelling at precisely 30.0000 mi/hr and 40.0000 km/hr respectively, and that the LA train left precisely on time (i.e. exactly 9.0000 hours after the NY train)

Jim Falconi
10-21-2005, 06:04 AM
next time take the bus!

Nancy Selleck
10-21-2005, 08:11 AM
I'm happy to see that my explanation of the licensing procedure is so clear that there are no questions about that!

Cool. /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif

Buck Beasley
10-21-2005, 10:08 AM
I did have a question..... is 007 considered a 3 digit novice approved number?

Nancy Selleck
10-21-2005, 10:38 AM

But thanks for asking. /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

10-21-2005, 07:05 PM
Ronnie... I think your answer doesn't match because your equations should look like this...
LA train
x(t) = x + v*t + (a*t)/2
a = 0
x = 0
v = 30 km/hr = 24.8548 mi/hr
so x(t) = 24.8548*t

NY train
y(t) = y + v*t + (a*t)/2
a = 0
y = 7730 (8000 minus the 270 it already travelled)
v = -30 mi/hr (since it's travelling the opposite direction from the LA train)
so y(t) = 7730 - 30*t

they meet when x(t) equals y(t), so
24.8548*t = 7730 - 30*t
t = 140.9175 hr after the LA train left, and 149.9175 hr after the NY train left.

David Milner
10-21-2005, 09:00 PM
Damn Aggies /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

David Branyon
10-21-2005, 09:20 PM

"The trains will need to fuel." I doubt it. 5000 gal is std diesel fuel tank on a modern locomotive, and traveling at that pokey speed probably only requires several hundred hp on average (no one said how heavy the trains were) and with a bsfc of ~.35 lb/hp.hr, ... I'm getting a range on the order of 7500 mi. Since each train only has to go 1/2 of 8000 mi, I think they can make it with no fuel stops. (But I don't wanna be the one to pay the bill when they get to the fuel stop.)

Couldn't let Nolden out-dork me on this. /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif

Tony Wang
10-22-2005, 12:11 AM
WOW! /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif I've created a monster... I like it! /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif Now, for the next question....

A plane is flying due West at 10 knots at an altitude of 2000 meters. There is a 10mph crosswind coming from the Northwest with 30 degrees down angle. What is the distance traveled and altitude of the plane after 30 minutes of flight? What are the directional adjustments required to keep the plane flying due West?

Norm McDonald
10-22-2005, 07:10 AM
At 10 knots it would be in the ground You just stalled out.

10-22-2005, 09:07 AM
As Norm said, a plane won't fly at 10 knots, not even a glider so you must have been referring to a helicopter.

But even if you gave us a realistic speed you still need more data like temp and barometric pressure to accurately calculate the problem otherwise you have to make to many assumptions.

Also, I'm not aware of any weather instrument that will calculate "down angle" of the wind.

Tony Wang
10-22-2005, 08:38 PM
come on people... work with me here... :rolleyes:

fine the plane is traving at 150knots...

Nuk Boy
10-25-2005, 09:19 PM
Did anybody check the tire pressure or get a temp on those train tires?

Coal, Nuclear, Gas, Electric, Diesel, or Gerbil trains. /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

10-26-2005, 02:46 PM
Ok.. this if fun and all .. but how about some REALLY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS!!! I've been asking this one for YEARS!!!

How much wood COULD a woodchuch chuck???


Tony Wang
10-26-2005, 05:00 PM
If a woodchuck could only chuck wood....

Buck Beasley
10-26-2005, 10:16 PM
I guess you missed that answer above .......42..( Universal answer to life the universe and everything) I'm going to assume wood measured in cords.

10-27-2005, 01:12 AM
Honestly, could someone please explain what "Chucking" is? I know "Up Chuck" from Drunk 101.... but what are you doin' to Chuck a piece of wood? Obviously a woodchuck CAN"T do it as the second like clearly states "IF a woodchuck could chuck wood"... so if a woodchuck CAN"T chuck.. who can? Is there a class somewhere I could learn how too?

Michael Parmley
10-27-2005, 03:10 AM
The same place you learn to "snipe hunt". If you don't know what snipe hunting is I'll take ya.

Chuck Ergle
10-27-2005, 03:46 PM
"chuck" is a synonym for "throw", so the rhetorical question would then become "if a woodchuck could throw wood, how much wood could a woodchuck throw?"

Of course, woodchucks can't throw things; they're just little furry marmots(according to Webster, woodchuck (Marmota monax, aka: "groundhog") is an Anglicized pronunciation of the Ojibwa and Cree words for the critter "otchig" and "otcheck").

Keith Hertell
10-27-2005, 08:27 PM
What the F@ck Chuck?

10-28-2005, 01:20 PM
/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif See... I KNEW this message board was full of education... now I don't honestly know if that Cree stuff is fact or really good fiction but I bet I can sell it to someone else down the line AND THAT"S ALL THAT MATTERS!!! So since we're into little known facts... Who ELSE knows where the phrase "the whole 9 yards" comes from... And DON"T try and tie it back to football. That would be sad............

Chuck Ergle
10-28-2005, 01:57 PM
It's something to do with the length of cloth required for some portion of attire in India (a sari or something like that), or it's the amount of cloth in a sword sash. I can't really remember which...

William Guthrie
10-28-2005, 03:37 PM
Hi Nancy!

10-28-2005, 07:36 PM
Apparently no one really knows for sure where the phrase originated... there are several plausible explanations, but according to the research I've done in the past no one has been able to say definitively where it came from.

Read this (http://www.yaelf.com/nineyards.shtml) for a few of the explanations...

Nancy Selleck
10-28-2005, 09:40 PM
And all of this has to do with license renewal info...how?

11-06-2005, 12:52 AM
Because green smells like 83 on Thursdays except for bratwurst options upon quark quantification. Like, duh.

DMS Racing
11-10-2005, 12:29 AM
Sinking into the dynamically, dimensionless, semi-pseudo relative, omni-applicable mental chughole it had become, the thread dispersed like a fart in a fan store, leaving only a hint of the aroma that levelled Tacoma.

Tom Thompson
11-13-2005, 08:02 PM
Nancy, I mailed my renewal to you email me about the #s. OK? Thanks!

Nancy Selleck
11-16-2005, 01:05 PM
Tom, I have no way of knowing which 2-digit numbers will be available until after January 1st.

I'll give you a call to let you know what's available when your license application gets to the top of the pile. Sometime after the 1st of January.

Nancy Selleck
11-21-2005, 04:09 PM
Please remember to include the expiration date of your credit card when you send in your license application!

As much as I enjoy speaking to each and every one of you, it will be less time consuming if I don't have to call to get that information.

Thanks! /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

Marv Esterly
11-22-2005, 08:04 AM
Nancy, I have not received my packet. My address is:

Marv Esterly
P.O. Box 61391
Midland, Texas 79711

Nancy Selleck
11-22-2005, 09:02 AM
Marv, I'll get another one in the mail to you today.

The license packets were mailed on November 1st. If anyone else hasn't received it you can either let me know and I'll mail another one or you can download everything from the Forms page.

I've had a few returned because of bad addresses.

Tom Thompson
12-21-2005, 02:41 PM
Is it Jan 1st yet....no call.....I guess not!

Nancy Selleck
12-21-2005, 02:51 PM
Thanks for the reminder Tom.

There are 10 days left to get your license application in to the CMRA office. That means in the office by the 1st, not postmarked by the 1st.

Tony Wang
12-21-2005, 08:20 PM
Hey Nancy did you get my fax? I ment to verify way back when I sent it, but I forgot or got distracted. I can't remember which... Any how, am I good to go?

Justin Molet
12-22-2005, 05:14 PM
i faxed mine in this morning.

Marv Esterly
12-27-2005, 10:20 AM
Hi Nancy, had a little problem with the new fax machine this morning. Sent my renewal twice. Please let me know if you received it?

Nancy Selleck
12-27-2005, 10:30 AM
Marv, I received both of them, but you forgot to put the expiration date for your credit card on there.

Try as I might, they just won't run without those pesky critters!

I'll put your application in my pending file until I hear from you with the expiration date.

Nancy Selleck
12-27-2005, 12:12 PM
Tony, just entered your license into the data base, so you're good to go.

Eric Kancir
12-27-2005, 03:17 PM
Nancy...just faxed mine in.

Tony Wang
12-28-2005, 10:22 AM
Right on... Thanks Nancy.

DMS Racing
01-20-2006, 09:26 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Originally posted by Russel Green # 734:
/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif See... I KNEW this message board was full of education... now I don't honestly know if that Cree stuff is fact or really good fiction but I bet I can sell it to someone else down the line AND THAT"S ALL THAT MATTERS!!! So since we're into little known facts... Who ELSE knows where the phrase "the whole 9 yards" comes from... And DON"T try and tie it back to football. That would be sad............ </div></div>Absolutely, I know where the term the whole nine yards came from:

It is the length of the belt of 50? caliber shells in the standard wing gun of a WWII P51 Mustang. Giving the whole nine yards was unloading all of your guns.

At least that is always what I heard.....

Oops, now I see DN had a link to a sight with this suggestion. So I guess, maybe NOT.

01-21-2006, 12:48 PM
actually that was very close... again, to my understanding it was the ground support machine guns. When soldiers were going to make an advance they would call to the back for "the whole nine yards" of cover fire which was the length of the belt. If the machine guns fired one more shell after that the barrels would overheat and bend under thier own weight. Once the belt was gone the guns had to wait minimum of 60 secs before they could start up again. Since this left them with no cover fire it was only used in extreme situations and during a full frontal advance. Thus describing something that is all out and everything you've got as "The Whole Nine Yards"....

William Guthrie
01-24-2006, 12:25 PM
it was from the wing gun as it relates to the military version but that only came about/around after WWII. There's other theory's that it came about from concrete trucks carring 9 yards and something to do with wedding dresses and the amount of fabirc... My bet would be that it came from a chick...

William Guthrie
01-24-2006, 12:27 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Originally posted by William Guthrie:
it was from the wing gun as it relates to the military version but that only came about/around after WWII. Knowing the military it was probably a standard used for the belt guns Green mentioned. There's other theory's that it came about from concrete trucks carring 9 yards and something to do with wedding dresses and the amount of fabirc... My bet would be that it came from a chick... </div></div>

01-24-2006, 04:29 PM
maybe that's it... fabric was only sold in 9 yard sections and the women wanted thier dress to look elaborate so they used "the whole 9 yards".. every little scrap....

01-25-2006, 07:33 AM
There's also a rumour that it relates to the amount of fabric in a full Highland kilt (not the little pleated skirt of today that became fashionable mid-19th century) that was a blanket, tent, raincoat and general pair of coveralls. The fabric represented a lot of work (could be years) and was valued for its utility.

As a side note, if that's true, my hat's off to those guys. I have a five yard version that weighs around 20 pounds, is warm as toast to wear and is extremely bulky. Twice that much wool would be impressive to carry around all day.