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02-01-2004, 10:55 AM
On a GSXR 5.5inch rim.

Comments, thoughts, and thread bastardizing welcome.

02-01-2004, 10:55 AM
On a GSXR 5.5inch rim.

Comments, thoughts, and thread bastardizing welcome.

Pete Martins
02-01-2004, 02:21 PM
As far as Dunlop goes, put a 180 on the 600 and a 190 (when we get then, next month) on the 750 and larger.

Pete Martins
02-01-2004, 02:21 PM
As far as Dunlop goes, put a 180 on the 600 and a 190 (when we get then, next month) on the 750 and larger.

02-01-2004, 03:15 PM
What does the 190 do for the 750, that the 180 doesn't/can't? Just curious...

02-01-2004, 03:15 PM
What does the 190 do for the 750, that the 180 doesn't/can't? Just curious...

Pete Martins
02-01-2004, 04:08 PM
The 190(208 GP "A") is new for Dunlop in 2004. it offers a larger contact patch than the 180.

Pete Martins
02-01-2004, 04:08 PM
The 190(208 GP "A") is new for Dunlop in 2004. it offers a larger contact patch than the 180.

David Hirsch
02-01-2004, 06:45 PM
As far as Michelins go run the 180 on the 5.5 even if it is a 750. We run 180s and 190s on the 6 inch wheel depending on the track and bike. The 190 tends to cause slower stearing but gives a bigger contact patch out of the corners.

David Hirsch
02-01-2004, 06:45 PM
As far as Michelins go run the 180 on the 5.5 even if it is a 750. We run 180s and 190s on the 6 inch wheel depending on the track and bike. The 190 tends to cause slower stearing but gives a bigger contact patch out of the corners.

darick
02-01-2004, 07:24 PM
I'll take that challenge Pete......Advantages could include just a smidge more of contact patch (increased grip) Which is a good thing if your riding something with big hp like a gixxer thou. I think Pete can comment on the Dunlop sizes but if I recall correctly, the only size they offered was a 190/50 (possibly changed now) This did affect handling somewhat as you had less of a rounded profile and sacrificed turn in for an increase in traction. Pirelli offers a 190/55 series profile which doesn't sacrifice profile for contact patch.
You might notice this more on a track (like Oak hill) where your always transitioning left/right.
I've never stuck a 190 section on my GSXR750 because the 180/55 Pirelli Supercorsa has never let me down with its outright grip. My engine is not a built one though. I also have the stock 5.5 inch rims.

here's a link for more info
http://www.sportrider.com/tech/tires/

darick
02-01-2004, 07:24 PM
I'll take that challenge Pete......Advantages could include just a smidge more of contact patch (increased grip) Which is a good thing if your riding something with big hp like a gixxer thou. I think Pete can comment on the Dunlop sizes but if I recall correctly, the only size they offered was a 190/50 (possibly changed now) This did affect handling somewhat as you had less of a rounded profile and sacrificed turn in for an increase in traction. Pirelli offers a 190/55 series profile which doesn't sacrifice profile for contact patch.
You might notice this more on a track (like Oak hill) where your always transitioning left/right.
I've never stuck a 190 section on my GSXR750 because the 180/55 Pirelli Supercorsa has never let me down with its outright grip. My engine is not a built one though. I also have the stock 5.5 inch rims.

here's a link for more info
http://www.sportrider.com/tech/tires/

SMILEYMAN
02-02-2004, 03:05 PM
Personally I have never minded sacrifycing profile for patch... /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

SMILEYMAN
02-02-2004, 03:05 PM
Personally I have never minded sacrifycing profile for patch... /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Pete Martins
02-03-2004, 10:29 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Originally posted by darick pash:
I'll take that challenge Pete......Advantages could include just a smidge more of contact patch (increased grip) Which is a good thing if your riding something with big hp like a gixxer thou. I think Pete can comment on the Dunlop sizes but if I recall correctly, the only size they offered was a 190/50 (possibly changed now) This did affect handling somewhat as you had less of a rounded profile and sacrificed turn in for an increase in traction. Pirelli offers a 190/55 series profile which doesn't sacrifice profile for contact patch.
You might notice this more on a track (like Oak hill) where your always transitioning left/right.
I've never stuck a 190 section on my GSXR750 because the 180/55 Pirelli Supercorsa has never let me down with its outright grip. My engine is not a built one though. I also have the stock 5.5 inch rims.

here's a link for more info
http://www.sportrider.com/tech/tires/ </div></div>The new DUNLOP 190 profile is 60 (190/60-ZR17). These are new this year, we should get them next month and will cary three compounds. I think we will have the BEST of both. /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Pete Martins
02-03-2004, 10:29 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Originally posted by darick pash:
I'll take that challenge Pete......Advantages could include just a smidge more of contact patch (increased grip) Which is a good thing if your riding something with big hp like a gixxer thou. I think Pete can comment on the Dunlop sizes but if I recall correctly, the only size they offered was a 190/50 (possibly changed now) This did affect handling somewhat as you had less of a rounded profile and sacrificed turn in for an increase in traction. Pirelli offers a 190/55 series profile which doesn't sacrifice profile for contact patch.
You might notice this more on a track (like Oak hill) where your always transitioning left/right.
I've never stuck a 190 section on my GSXR750 because the 180/55 Pirelli Supercorsa has never let me down with its outright grip. My engine is not a built one though. I also have the stock 5.5 inch rims.

here's a link for more info
http://www.sportrider.com/tech/tires/ </div></div>The new DUNLOP 190 profile is 60 (190/60-ZR17). These are new this year, we should get them next month and will cary three compounds. I think we will have the BEST of both. /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif